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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis
    I am not going to dispute that stress can affect menstrual cycles, but in the specific case of athletes the reason they start 'skipping' is that their bodyfat drops below a certain percentage.
    Yes, and let's also not foget the hormone replacement therapies that most female athletes undergo for training. Testosterone is not a banned substance by the IOC or any other governing athletic body. And it will turn off a woman's period in a blink.
    It's in the blood...

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    Amenorrhea

    I think I got the spelling of that right. It's called 'amenorrhea'; missing a period or several in times of stress. And weight loss seems to be a side effect, not a cause. I haven't had a period since Thanksgiving,right before we moved; in the fuss and hassle of moving, the Christmas holidays, and my husband's wandering thoughts along with various other social and intimate pressures, i haven't had one in a few months. No, I'm not pregnant; I had myself 'spayed' after the birth of my second child. So the only other possibility is stress-induced amenorrhea, accompanied by weight loss (I've dropped one pant size since Thanksgiving). So I have to say, in my experience...no. Stress doesn't cause my libido to go up. I will say, though, that I've indulged in more self-inflicted bondage-and-pain sessions since Thanksgiving; the pain helps relieve my stress. Doesn't do anything to raise my sex drive, though I do find myself orgasming during the worst of the pain. But it doesn't bring any kind of sexual relief; the orgasm feels mostly perfunctory.
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    I haven’t read the article TopRock is referring to, most of that scientific stuff goes right over my head anyway, but I wish I had. It’s an intriguing topic for sure.

    I’ve often heard it said that a woman may climax during rape. It’s also well documented that in ancient Roman times soldiers (who fought naked) would more often than not go in battle with a raging erections. Obviously the body reacts in strange ways under stress.

    But I think what might be getting confused here is types of stress.

    The type TopRock and Curtis are referring to is very short-term stress known as ‘eustress’ which strengthens a person for immediate and short-term activity. A good example would be a parent who is able to single handedly pull a child from a urgent and threatening situation, that ordinarily they just wouldn't have the physical strenghth for. I hadn’t given it much thought until I now, but I guess rape could certainly induce almost instant bodily changes.

    The type Jeanangel is referring, is known as 'distress'. It's caused by prolonged adjustment, or struggle, to adapt to something unpleasant. Hers is a good example of this.

    Now, I could be wrong here, but I think the type of stress that may cause female athletes to begin skipping their periods, and dropping body fat might be 'hyperstress' or overload, which occurs when we try to overload ourselves and stretch our limits to excess.

    And no, Curtis, you did not make a ‘jackass’ of yourself...
    Last edited by Alex Bragi; 01-15-2005 at 12:20 AM.
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    I did, however, change the topic (or, more properly, introduce a new one). Top-Rock was trying to open a discussion on whether eustress could make a woman horny. I think anyone who's ever gone to a good scary movie with a woman knows the answer to that one. Near-death experiences, even vicarious ones, have been acknowledged as aphrodisiacs for both men and women for decades (think rollercoasters, skydiving, being shot at and missed, etc.).

    The point I raised was different. I was speaking of a strictly physiological reaction (ovulation) to a very specific trigger (rape). Becoming pregnant has very little to do with how horny you are. (Or does it? That might be an interesting point to explore as well.)

    And I think Alex sells short her ability to comprehend 'that scientific stuff'. Anyone who can come up with, and usefully define 'eustress', 'distress' and 'hyperstress' won't often find herself in over her head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Bragi
    types of stress....
    The type TopRock and Curtis are referring to is very short-term stress known as ‘eustress’ which strengthens a person for immediate and short-term activity.
    The type Jeanangel is referring, is known as 'distress'. It's caused by prolonged adjustment, or struggle, to adapt to something unpleasant. Hers is a good example of this.
    Now, I could be wrong here, but I think the type of stress that may cause female athletes to begin skipping their periods, and dropping body fat might be 'hyperstress' or overload, which occurs when we try to overload ourselves and stretch our limits to excess.
    ENABLING STRESS
    I seem to have arrived late in on this thread, as is often the case with me. I agree with alex's division of types of stress into three, but have used the term enabling stress , instead of eustress; and have explained it on one occasion, by giving a demonstration of what happened when I removed all stress from my muscles; I dropped straight to the floor, much to the surprise of the audience! another example is in psychiatric patients given overenthusiastic lobotomies, all distress, also all stress is removed, and with it all drive so that a person who retains all their intellectual abilities has so little drive that they are doubly incontinent and have to be handfed. I.E nil stress= nil performance.
    DISABLING STRESS (distress)
    Have you noticed that when you are so worried and stressed that you cannot think straight, on reflection, you realise that a major contributor, even the main cause was not big global issues like relationships , illness, and death etc, but a noise in the high fi , a mislaid shoe ,or paper back, something so minor , that you don't have time to allocate to it, and yet if you are honest it got to you quite disproportionally; it trod on your emotional corns. Frequently distress can be resolved by emptying the recycle bin of ones mind of these minor problems that get to YOU. (Just small amounts of these make big differences to ones stress levels yet are easily resolved once acknowledged.)
    HYPERSTRESS
    Too much for too long, wears you down.
    When managing all this in oneself it is more beneficial to think of verbs not nouns, I.E. instead of 'why have i so much stress', ask yourself ' what am i doing (or not doing) to get myself distressed.
    (If a suitable thread appears I could describe some simple home measures for addressing this subject further.)
    I think that the evidence suggests that a weight loss of 30% below average for ht, in women is sufficient for them to cease menstruating and that this is independent from stress levels.
    Last edited by slavelucy; 02-28-2005 at 05:38 PM. Reason: Fixed the quote - sl

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    Quote Originally Posted by DONATIEN
    If a suitable thread appears I could describe some simple home measures for addressing this subject further.
    I don't know about a thread, but a link to such things or (greedy, greedy) a list of your favorites would be welcome.
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