Does the Haiti earthquake prove that there is no god?

[IAN 2411]

Not a very original idea, I must say. Except for the steel workers part, I suppose. I've read a few science fiction stories in my day with similar plots. And if that's what you want to believe, if that makes you comfortable, fine. I won't argue with it.

But may I ask, do you have any evidence to support your religion? Does your religion explain the observed expansion of the universe? Does your religion explain the observed facts of evolution and geology? If so, show me the evidence. Make your case. Who knows? You may even be able to convert me!

Scientists know a hell of a lot about the universe, through observation and deduction and experimentation. They can explain the evolution of the cosmos from a point many thousandths of a second after the Big Bang (which wasn't really a bang, btw) up to the present and on into the future. They can explain the movement of the continents across the face of the globe, splitting and combining, forming oceans and mountains, over billions of years, and into the future. They can even explain the evolution of life, from a festering puddle of toxic goo; through the huddled, superstitious clans hiding in caves; right up to the sprawling, still superstitious, masses of humanity we have today. All supported by evidence, thoughtful deduction and, yes, even a little educated guesswork thrown in. And none of it requires the presence of an invisible man to keep things running smoothly.

So again I say: Show me the evidence! Go ahead. Make me a convert to your steel worker god.

On this occasion I have to agree with you, but that still does not prove we are not in a steel plate. The worrying thing is since writing my last post, I have just looked at my car, and was wondering how many universes would be in it, LoL, meaning space, time, continuum. Now I have an appointment with a psychiatrist that I must keep.

Convert you? I very much doubt it.

Regards ian 2411

[Thorne]

On this occasion I have to agree with you, but that still does not prove we are not in a steel plate.

I've never said it does. I've also never claimed that science proves that God does not exist. In fact, as I've often said, no one can prove that anything does not exist. It's impossible to prove a negative. All we can do is say that there is no evidence to show that something exists, or perhaps show that the existence of item A would mean that item B could not exist, but since item B does exist then item A cannot exist.

And tomorrow, when we prove the existence of item A and yet item B still exists, a whole new field of science will be born! Hallelujah!

Convert you? I very much doubt it.

Miracles have been known to happen.

Haven't they?

[DuncanONeil]

Just as there is no concrete evidence that "dark matter" exists!

I've never said it does. I've also never claimed that science proves that God does not exist. In fact, as I've often said, no one can prove that anything does not exist. It's impossible to prove a negative. All we can do is say that there is no evidence to show that something exists, or perhaps show that the existence of item A would mean that item B could not exist, but since item B does exist then item A cannot exist.

And tomorrow, when we prove the existence of item A and yet item B still exists, a whole new field of science will be born! Hallelujah!



Miracles have been known to happen.

Haven't they?