Yeah I agree with Spitman - if it doesn't ring your bells why on earth do it?

Interesting - the viewpoint that orgasm really doesn't matter if the task set is completed successfully...but I think that reflects the demands of the Dom, to some degree. As I've said before, to me, I only get real satisfaction if the sub is brought to her knees not thru pain, but thru pleasure. Probably reveals my generous nature lol

Pain is a truly wonderful trigger for many "things"...

We are all very different, some become positively ecstatic when subjected to, what can only be described as, "pure torture", some crave only the mildest of treatments, but basically we all derive what we need from the experience. We are no different, Dom or sub, in that.

As for Humiliation - in itself it can be heart stoppingly exciting or nothing at all - it all depends on your angle...talking of which I watched "The Image" the other day - yeah I know it's flawed (it would be impossibe to perfectly envision the book) but there are some quite excellent moments when Anne is subjected to pure humiliation - just like Tourguide I found myself inadvertently drooling lol

YN

"...why don't you ring me more often?" - My mum.