art or offence?

[DuncanONeil]

Actually kind of funny!

How about this bit of bathroom hardware?

Dispenser

[MMI]

"The Woman Abuse Working Group, a coalition of 24 organizations, disagreed and led efforts to oust what it considered to be an offensive water closet."

What were they doing in the Men's room? Trying to be offended by men again?

[thir]

"The Woman Abuse Working Group, a coalition of 24 organizations, disagreed and led efforts to oust what it considered to be an offensive water closet."

What were they doing in the Men's room? Trying to be offended by men again?

I guess some man tipped them off ;-)

But you are right, only the men would see it (one must assume) and so it is in fact more interestig what the men think of this.

What do you think?

[denuseri]

Thats becuase they are always going about it the wrong way sugar.

At least in so far as when freaking out over things like art that may or may not be objectifing women.

[thir]

Thats becuase they are always going about it the wrong way sugar.

At least in so far as when freaking out over things like art that may or may not be objectifing women.

OK, I understand your point now.

Yes, in the Western world it is a joke - some of it even sexy ;-)

But had the pictures been from places around the world where women really are objects (cannot choose partner or sex partner, killed if dowry not paid, stoned to death if having a lover, cannot own things, gassed if you try to go to school and so on and on) such images would make me puke.

[thir]

http://www.oo.com.au/Vice_Versa_Vood...29751C1838.cfm

What about this one?

[openyoureyes]

http://www.oo.com.au/Vice_Versa_Vood...29751C1838.cfm

What about this one?

My aunt owns this. Said someone bought it for her and her husband to deal with arguments in the kitchen... I thought it was silly, albeit cute, but not offensive.

I'm not particularly offended by any of the urinals either, though.

[lucy]

Thats becuase they are always going about it the wrong way sugar.

Gotta love generalizations, huh? They're making life so freakin' simple....

[FrgnSwtc]

gotta love generalizations, huh? They're making life so freakin' simple....

why yes they do...especially when used in responce to other peoples generalizations.

rofl

[denuseri]

First thing I thought of was the Lips from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Which I never did figure out...were they the maid magneta's or did they belong to Tim Curry? I wonder which lips the artist was thinking of...could it be Tim Curry's? Maby the feminists arent the ones who should have their panties in a wad...maby the G&L community should be angry or perhaps ole Tim himself.

[Lion]

Neither art nor offensive.

Well, if it were in a church or airport, that would be stupid. But in a bar or club, it's meant to be outlandish.

[Jennifer Williams]

I am, for the most part, pretty accepting of most things, so I personally don't find this offensive.

My guess would be that enough men found it offensive that their complaints started the ruckus. My guess would be I might find it offensive if I were a man in that if I've gotta go, I have to go in one of those, or leave the building to try to find another one. Because pissing is a necessity, and there you are messing with it, taking away the men's control about it. Piss in the woman's mouth or...find a dark alley? Maybe that's what made them so upset.

I'm far more curious about what the mindset of this company was when they made these. "Guys, let's design this and see if anybody will buy it. *snicker*" I highly doubt their thought was "Well we all know women should be lesser than men, so let's make one of our urinals state that."

I was offended by the airline that considered installing them. My guess is (I would hope) that they were putting them in a bar area, but that is too public of a place, to me. Vanillas have a right to their idea of peace of mind, as do the rest of us, in very public places. In places where all kinds of people from all kinds of religions, races, and ethnicities come through, I think effort to make everything "blah" is necessary.

Also the bathroom with the photos of women watching while men piss was hysterical to me.

[leo9]

My guess would be that enough men found it offensive that their complaints started the ruckus. My guess would be I might find it offensive if I were a man in that if I've gotta go, I have to go in one of those, or leave the building to try to find another one. Because pissing is a necessity, and there you are messing with it, taking away the men's control about it. Piss in the woman's mouth or...find a dark alley? Maybe that's what made them so upset.

I think I'm more PC than average, but if I'd come upon this unexpectedly I'd probably have thought "Oh, that's stupid." It's too far away from anything real for me to find it offensive.

I'm far more curious about what the mindset of this company was when they made these. "Guys, let's design this and see if anybody will buy it. *snicker*"

I think both this and the "nuns" were probably just visual free-association with the shapes of functional urinals. You did see that this was designed by a woman?

I was offended by the airline that considered installing them. My guess is (I would hope) that they were putting them in a bar area, but that is too public of a place, to me. Vanillas have a right to their idea of peace of mind, as do the rest of us, in very public places. In places where all kinds of people from all kinds of religions, races, and ethnicities come through, I think effort to make everything "blah" is necessary.

That is a good point. I can imagine prudes of many religions being offended by it.

Also the bathroom with the photos of women watching while men piss was hysterical to me.

Me too. You did catch that they were all supposed to look awed or admiring at what they were seeing? A little wish-fulfilment fantasy to entertain the users...

[thir]

I'm far more curious about what the mindset of this company was when they made these. "Guys, let's design this and see if anybody will buy it. *snicker*" I highly doubt their thought was "Well we all know women should be lesser than men, so let's make one of our urinals state that."

Also the bathroom with the photos of women watching while men piss was hysterical to me.

As I remember, some of them at least were made by a female Dutch artist.

If by hysterical you mean funny, I reacted that way too! Maybe we are just women chauvinists ;-)

However, the knife block made out of a male body spooked me. Seemed very hostile.

[steelish]

So far...the only thing I've found offensive are the plastic (or sometimes metal) scrotums that you can hang from the back bumper of vehicles.

I just don't think it's appropriate in any way, shape or form for a fake scrotum to be dangling out in the open where children can see it as someone drives down the road.

It makes me wonder how people would feel if someone invented fake vaginas for the backs of vehicles.

[denuseri]

Why yes they do...especially when used in responce to other peoples generalizations.

[Ozme52]

LMAO @ "wrong waterfall".