Quote Originally Posted by IAN 2411{lillirose} View Post
leo9, I do agree that that there are certain cases where people should not be on the SOR, I believe that I have said this once before about the young couple that live near me. Had sex with each other at 15 and had a baby, the boy was put on the SOR but the girl was not. They are both happily married and the child is 6 years old, now where is the justice in that? I agree that it has to be reformed because as you say there are too many cases brushed in the pile because the law has no idea how to react for the public’s safety.
In other words, you agree exactly with what the ECHR actually said, which is that people should have the right to appeal - not be unconditionally pardoned, as you might think from the tabloids, but just appeal to a court, same as one can appeal against an unjust prison sentence.

But you just reacted to the tabloids headlines saying EURO COURT BACKS PERVES "RIGHTS". And did it occur to you to wonder why this issue was all over the papers right now, given that the original decision was some time back and it won't be actioned for years? Because Cameron is squaring up for a fight with the ECHR over prisoners' votes, but that might not rouse enough indignation among the voters. So they dug this judgement out of the files, blew the dust off it and splashed it as if it were a sensational new development, so they now have two "ECHR HATES UK" issues to shout about. The scary thing is that the public falls for these tricks every time.
However it was the ECHR that I was pissed off about because of the stupidity of the rights they try to uphold, and then unload on nations that they think do not corrispond to their way of thinking.
And with that example in front of you, doesn't it occur to you to wonder if some of those other rights only look "stupid" because you don't personally know people affected by them?