No matter WHAT - the marines look after their own

[leo9]

You mention road bombs. I have been considering that for some time, and logically I cannot see any difference between sidebombs, mines, other bombs, or drones. Can you?
It is war, and the idea is to kill your enemies. And both sides do it any way they can.

Historically, regular troops have always been sensitive about guerillas: it's like they're not playing fair. Soldiers take casualties from guerilla traps much harder than the same losses to the other side's regular forces. And one of their common responses is to start slaughtering the locals, on the basis that some of them have probably been supporting the guerillas, so let's just kill them all and let God sort it out.

From the guerillas' point of view, this is an ideal response, since it greatly increases the general hostility to the invaders. Which is one reason, leaving aside all moral considerations, why intelligent commanders try to prevent abuse of civillians. Stupid commanders imagine that terrorising the locals will make them more co-operative. Historically, this rarely works.

[thir]

Historically, regular troops have always been sensitive about guerillas: it's like they're not playing fair. Soldiers take casualties from guerilla traps much harder than the same losses to the other side's regular forces. And one of their common responses is to start slaughtering the locals, on the basis that some of them have probably been supporting the guerillas, so let's just kill them all and let God sort it out.

I see the problem/

From the guerillas' point of view, this is an ideal response, since it greatly increases the general hostility to the invaders. Which is one reason, leaving aside all moral considerations, why intelligent commanders try to prevent abuse of civillians. Stupid commanders imagine that terrorising the locals will make them more co-operative. Historically, this rarely works.

No, the civilians only end up in the middle, as always.

[thir]

Please guys, do not get personal! Go after the ball, not the man.

This issue is important, at least I think so. Very important! So please do not wreck it.

Thank you in advance.

[IAN 2411]

Please guys, do not get personal! Go after the ball, not the man.

This issue is important, at least I think so. Very important! So please do not wreck it.

Thank you in advance.

You are so right, point taken

Be well Ian

[Ozme52]

Please guys, do not get personal! Go after the ball, not the man.

This issue is important, at least I think so. Very important! So please do not wreck it.

Thank you in advance.

Well, to the point, while I abhor civilian casualites, I recognize they are inevitable. And if you wish to try the marines who participated, I say do that, but only after you try all the Iraqii soldiers who perpetrated far worse against their neighbors' and their own civilians, after you try all the insurgents who use car bombs in civilian areas in order to harm said marines, and after you try all the leaders of all the representative parti, including religious leaders, for being beligerent and causing these conflicts.

Even then, I'd be hard pressed to naysay those who are doing there best to protect themselves as they carry out the wishes of said leaders.

[leo9]

Well, to the point, while I abhor civilian casualites, I recognize they are inevitable. And if you wish to try the marines who participated, I say do that, but only after you try all the Iraqii soldiers who perpetrated far worse against their neighbors' and their own civilians, after you try all the insurgents who use car bombs in civilian areas in order to harm said marines, and after you try all the leaders of all the representative parti, including religious leaders, for being beligerent and causing these conflicts.

Considering how our parents told us that "someone else was doing it" is no excuse, it's amazing how many adults use it.