Orgasm training

[ineedneedles]

My owner went out of town for 3 days and instructed me that I was not allowed to masturbate. He wants me on the edge when he returns and only orgasm when He allows it. Does anyone else have to go through this? This is the first time my privilege has been taken and I now realize how much it controls me! Arrgghhhhhhh!

[.x.Cole.x.]

umm yeah my Master does this to me also. it sucks and its hard to get through BUT it will feel amazing when he finally lets you.

**hugs**

[ineedneedles]

I know. It is just so I can serve Him better, but it sure does suck!

[thrall]

CR.....i feel for you!

I think its something we all get to go through.......lol...

[Rowen]

CR.....i feel for you!

I think its something we all get to go through.......lol...

Yeah, and whe hate it...LOL

[Rowen]

Miss Tanya is also very fond of this...Go ask Slut Linda!!
But s hard for males too! Do you have to masturbate those days as well? That makes it even harder! The reward however is awesome, trust me!

[ineedneedles]

On one hand though, I am curious how he would punish me if I did. He knows me too well though, we have been together for 10 years. He would probably withhold the spanking as punishment. Why do I always tell him what works best on me???

[Rowen]

On one hand though, I am curious how he would punish me if I did. He knows me too well though, we have been together for 10 years. He would probably withhold the spanking as punishment. Why do I always tell him what works best on me???

Mmmhh..could it be the fact that you are a submissive?

[.x.Cole.x.]

lol. yeah we all make our lil mistakes telling our Dom what works but it makes it all the more interesting. He has think what else He can do to punish you and sometimes the punishment is better!

[denuseri]

CR is a way of life for me now, i am never to cum unles ordered too, or forced to by a dominate, of course one should keep in mind that if you are in the process of conditioning a sub for "cum training" or orgasm control or maintaining such conditioning, (like he commands yu to cum on command and or stop mid orgasm on command) that waiting too long between trainning sessions and or orgasms is actually detrimental to achieveing that kind of control

the time between "trainning sessions" required to successfully be able to cum on command with no outside stimulas of course varies between individuals

routine maintanence trainning is an on going proccess as well

for me it took a full month with two to three sessions per week of 2-6 hr increments to achieve my first real cold start orgasm with nothing more than a single command from my owner and absolutely no stimulation prior,

going a week on cr after that actually set us back as i was not able to re-achieve the desired result from a cold start, so it was back to the training sessions for a couple weeks again,

now i am pretty much on spot with no stinulation (starting maintaining sometimes up to 20-40 minutes or so, and stoping all on command with no touching) though i dont reccomend trying for such long ones as 40mins they can be devestating ive only had one that went that long

there are a variety of ways to train for this,,, some are easier than others, the method my owner used on me used kinbaku/ hojojutsu techniques that literally forced my body to respond rather quickley due to the type of muscle tension placed on the body, its also helped that i trainned on my own with tantric meditation techniques, yoga, and positive reinforcment focusing "mantras" for a ffew weeks prior and during the proccess, i still use them to this day

he can pretty much make me cum and stop with an order anywhere at anytime now,, all with never having to get me worked up before hand, he has even had me cum by command in an email before, and the funny thing is i cant "NOT" cum when he orders me , even if i try my best not too, when he says "cum" i cum,, its like my virginia really has a mind of its own that follows his wishes ( the first time that happened i thought my pussy was broke or i was going insane)

i have also been able to do this for an online dom i met here who is intimantly familuar with cum training techniques and actually got me and my owner interested in trying them out again, i had taken a haiatus from it for a while due to medical reasons, so its not just for "real life" play winks

[ineedneedles]

Thank you for the fabulous info denuseri! It has given me a lot to think about and I am going to forward it to my Master.

[Ozme52]

There are numerous threads on CR and CD (denial) and various forms of 'training' that you might want to search through.

I use CR & CD only to create the tension required to train a sub to my voice. And that doesn't work for all subs. Part of the pleasure is in discovering how to best condition a woman to cum on command.

[deigja]

Okay.. for me it is pretty different wether I may not masturbate or am denied orgasm

denying me to masturbate does not really work on me if you want me on the edge.... not without someone arousing me on purpose.... it lets me feel frustrated, it makes me feel masters power - it´s his to decide wether I may or may not play with myself. I sometimes get angry with myself because I feel my fingers wander on innocent parts of my body, I let them move slightly over my wrist for example, and I get frustrated because I cannot control myself.
If I´m just denied to cum... I just can´t keep myself from playing even harder than usually with myself. Don´t ask how I manage to stop just in time, but fortunately I seldomly fail in this. This is something that makes me feel crazy. I really do like beeing on the edge but it is awkward when I am so frustrated sexually, that I get aroused by harmless and innocent every-day-situations, as for example somebody walking close by me...
Both situations, cum restriction as well as beeing forbidden to masturbate, give me mixed feelings.. I love beeing on the edge but it is really hard to keep my senses together. Still I know how much better it will be next time I am allowed to cum. If I may not masturbate I feel dependent on master, feel his superiority so much more. I feel that I cannot always control my body when I absentmindedly start stroking myself.. but after some time, lets say three or four days, it almost loses its effect on me. I forget about stroking altogether and my libido falls into some kind of sleep until something unusual arouses me...


just my 2 cents..

deigja

[Kuskovian]

Yes I agree it is very good to mix things up from time to time.

Not everyone desires to be controlled in such a manner as mentioned in the above posts.

I don't recomend "cum training" for all as it does require a certian degree of constant comitment, nor do I recomend edge play constantly as it's application with too much frequency lowers a girls heat in some regards.

Each slave is different, the individual training of every slave is allways a challenging and rewarding effort.

It takes ingenuity and disipline to seek out and bring forth thier highest potentials.

[AdrianaAurora]

denuseri, I just have to say your post left me most impressed.

[denuseri]

why thanku Adriana, its very difficult to explain it on the forums there is so much more to it than what i can put into words

we have in the past had a couple of live in chat teaching sessions with a couple of different subs and one D/s couple

[orchidsoul]

I was unintentionally very close once,
and it's definitely left me wanting more.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. They're very helpful and encouraging.

[denuseri]

i just have to say i love yur signiture boo, it rocks especially when posting on this thread lol

huggels and kissess

[orchidsoul]

haha! Thank you and good point...
one can only be so lucky!!

[Flaming_Redhead]

I was in a year-long D/s relationship in which I was forbidden to cum without him. Since I'm not perfect, yet.....sometimes I did anyway. In my current relationship, I have no such rule.

[slaveaislinn]

i am under that rule, sometimes it's great other times......ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrr........not so great.

[shayna{L_D}]

denuseri you are always so interesting...


and on this matter, i have yet to have a Master....so, sorry i have no imput.

[Ozme52]

We can tell you what you need to know and how to do it... or not, to be precise.


Don't despair and always remember, "Bare it and they will cum!"

No wait, that was another movie.

[denuseri]

So true oh great wizzard

it is even possible to do it online i personally know at least one dom here (other than my owner ) who has done it with me in real life only) that has got great reactions through the online medium

so its not like yu have to have a master to learn the basics, and as many people have said there are as many different methods to use to get there as there are different types of people

[denuseri]

wait does commanding me to cum with a hand signal, a look, or in a letter or a phone call, or a text message count? if so i take back the real life reffernce to my owner, lol

[Ozme52]

Yes. There are many reasons to do CR or CD... but I do it to train the submissive's body to respond to my presence and to my voice...

... because (heh) I'm a lazy bastard and when I want you to cum... by gawd, you should cum so I don't have to work too hard.

[denuseri]

thing is sir that it doesnt nessesarally have to be any one paticular sir's voice now does it? (however romantic it may be to think along those lines) it is after all a physiological and phycological conditioning byproduct to be purely clinical about it

though i must admit when my owner is right in front of me, when i am covvered in sweat, my thighs burning from clenching and holding position, the ropes digging into my flesh, my insides primmed to explode with anticiapation, my eyes glazed over in sub space, when i hear his voice whisper in my ear, or even BOOM from accross the room, saying "CUM!!!!" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is one muther-- fraker of a wild ass ride WEG

[Ozme52]

thing is sir that it doesnt nessesarally have to be any one paticular sir's voice now does it? (however romantic it may be to think along those lines) it is after all a physiological and phycological conditioning byproduct to be purely clinical about it

though i must admit when my owner is right in front of me, when i am covvered in sweat, my thighs burning from clenching and holding position, the ropes digging into my flesh, my insides primmed to explode with anticiapation, my eyes glazed over in sub space, when i hear his voice whisper in my ear, or even BOOM from accross the room, saying "CUM!!!!" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is one muther-- fraker of a wild ass ride WEG

Exactly. Tone and timbre of the voice is part and parcel of the process.

Even online, the "cadence" at which things are said and commands given, will translate to real life... once you begin to associate that cadance with the actual verbalizations... and then... yes... Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

[orchidsoul]

though i must admit when my owner is right in front of me, when i am covvered in sweat, my thighs burning from clenching and holding position, the ropes digging into my flesh, my insides primmed to explode with anticiapation, my eyes glazed over in sub space, when i hear his voice whisper in my ear, or even BOOM from accross the room, saying "CUM!!!!" ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is one muther-- fraker of a wild ass ride WEG

damn woman.
you're killing me!


of course I wouldn't want to hinder your lessons, so please oh please don't stop

[Kuskovian]

Actually Orchidsoul ,my little kajira is only hinting at touching the tip of the proverbial iceberg in these posts.

Sounds like Ozme has done this to/with more than a few females himself.

I agree fully the cadence is very important; at least during the conditioning process. It all depends if one wishes to take things to the cold start level.