Never ever punish while angry... nope nope

and I must agree.. for me.. being ignored or seperated from my Dom was the worst. But it was also the most effective. I am very hands on.. clingy.. needy... type.. I need that attention.. and being seperated or cut off from it even for 5 minutes is torture.. it is diff. for every couple and they must find what works. I rarely ever ever had to be punished by Ocean... knowing he was disapointed in me was the worst.... gosh...