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[DuncanONeil]

Believing in it is one thing. Finding evidence for it is quite another. But regardless of how you want to define the biblical "day", the entire sequence of creation as shown in Genesis is wrong. Therefor impossible. After all, how can you have light on the first day but the sun, moon and stars on the fourth. And the earth coming before the sun? Um, I don't think that would work.

Our ligt comes from the Sun, Now!

[Thorne]

Our ligt comes from the Sun, Now!

Great! So where did the light come from before the sun and stars were created? Just a generalized glow throughout the universe?

[MMI]

Great! So where did the light come from before the sun and stars were created? Just a generalized glow throughout the universe?

Actually, Thorne, that might be about right. After all, scientists talk about seeing traces of the Big Bang in background radiation, which is the same in every direction you look.

Of course, proof of the Big Bang would just about be the end for God.

[DuncanONeil]

Actually, Thorne, that might be about right. After all, scientists talk about seeing traces of the Big Bang in background radiation, which is the same in every direction you look.

Of course, proof of the Big Bang would just about be the end for God.

Proof of the Big Bang would do nothing to make an end for God!

[Thorne]

Actually, Thorne, that might be about right. After all, scientists talk about seeing traces of the Big Bang in background radiation, which is the same in every direction you look.

True, but it is not visible radiation. Therefore it is not light.

Of course, proof of the Big Bang would just about be the end for God.

No, you can't really say that. There is always the possibility, however remote, that some god started the whole shebang. But it would kill the myth of the biblical creation (as though that needs any more killing) and would relegate the Judeo/Christian/Islamic version of God to the fairy tale scrap heap where he belongs.

[DuncanONeil]

True, but it is not visible radiation. Therefore it is not light.


No, you can't really say that. There is always the possibility, however remote, that some god started the whole shebang. But it would kill the myth of the biblical creation (as though that needs any more killing) and would relegate the Judeo/Christian/Islamic version of God to the fairy tale scrap heap where he belongs.

Sorry can't quite accept that the referenced discovery would "kill the myth of the biblical creation". Being as a "Supreme Being" is by definition unknowable, their skills and abilities are also unknowable.

[Thorne]

Sorry can't quite accept that the referenced discovery would "kill the myth of the biblical creation". Being as a "Supreme Being" is by definition unknowable, their skills and abilities are also unknowable.

But somehow all those religious leaders seem to know about them? That would be a contradiction, wouldn't it?

But perhaps what they claim to "know" is really just speculation, based on a lack of understanding of the real world. Like how a bronze-age nomad would have viewed the world.

[DuncanONeil]

But somehow all those religious leaders seem to know about them? That would be a contradiction, wouldn't it?

But perhaps what they claim to "know" is really just speculation, based on a lack of understanding of the real world. Like how a bronze-age nomad would have viewed the world.

Basically all I was told was; God was all seeing, all powerful, and all knowing.