the story of Our Lady "the Virgin Mary" in the muslims holly book (quran)

[domaster]

thank you Dear friends
and Thorne I think you know a lot about religions for someone who does not believe in God
I do not know if that you was a believer in God or you was searching for God because it is impossible to be an atheist and knowledgeable religion
I do not understand this thing ... you Want to prove the existence of God ...
Human born on instinct
If you think you are very distinct and very special for the rest of humanity
And you deserve to waived God just for you
To show you signs or miracles to believe in him?
well u can wait for it ... who know ...
Signs and wonders before us every day and every thing
Leading thinkers and scientists around the world, after hoping and thinking and research have recognized the inevitability of a Creator of this universe
other video maybe will hellp u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd08KIqkrZw

And I hope that your response or intolerance without anger or insults
Just conversation

[Thorne]

Thorne I think you know a lot about religions for someone who does not believe in God
I do not know if that you was a believer in God or you was searching for God because it is impossible to be an atheist and knowledgeable religion

I don't claim to know a LOT about religion, but I am learning, and the more I do learn the more secure I become in my atheism.

But why do you think it's impossible to be both an atheist and knowledgeable about religion? Most modern atheists were raised in religious homes and communities, as I was. It is through the study of our religions that we realized the fallacies of religion.

I do not understand this thing ... you Want to prove the existence of God ...

That's not quite true. I think it is as impossible to prove the existence of gods as it is impossible to prove they do NOT exist. What I ask is that you prove that your religious beliefs are true. Prove that prayer works. Prove that there is a soul. Prove that there is a heaven. We cannot even show reliable evidence that there is any kind of life after death, despite the beliefs of billions!

If you think you are very distinct and very special for the rest of humanity
And you deserve to waived God just for you
To show you signs or miracles to believe in him?

Quite the opposite. I do NOT believe that I'm special or any different than anyone else. I have, perhaps, certain talents, but lack other talents. You, I'm sure, also have certain talents, and lack some others. We are all similar, though not identical.

I suppose what I am saying, though, is that, according to your religions, God made me, which means he made me an atheist. But being an atheist I can see past the trappings of religions and ask the question, "IS there a god?" And if you ask that question without assuming that gods exist you force yourself to find evidence for that existence. And there is none.

other video maybe will hellp u

I don't have the time or the inclination to go through 40+ minutes of this, so it's fortunate that he exposes his fallacy in the very beginning. The speaker says,

We know that when a person dies ... that the spirit of the individual is brought back, and he or she hears ... their footsteps. Then two angels, who will be jet black with blue eyes, will come and sit up the individual in the grave... and ask three questions.

My question is, HOW do we know this? Who has seen this? Who has recorded it? Where is the evidence for it? And the only answers I can find say that NO ONE has seen this. So he doesn't KNOW this, he BELIEVES it. But apparently he cannot tell the difference between the two.

So, I offer you this video in return. Hitchens is a leader in the atheist community, a brilliant speaker, and far more eloquent than I can be.

And I hope that your response or intolerance without anger or insults
Just conversation

I will try. It is difficult sometimes when, as an atheist, I am constantly being called evil, or delusional, or having my position deliberately misrepresented, or being compared to Hitler, Stalin and Mao.

But you must understand that, to me, your belief systems are no different than superstitions and I will continue to consider them as such until you can show me how they are different.