the story of Our Lady "the Virgin Mary" in the muslims holly book (quran)

[Thorne]

Look, all I can say (as an Agnostic in his 20's) is that the only words in the Bible I believe to be "true to God" are the words spoken by Jesus Christ.

NONE of the Gospels are contemporary accounts of Jesus. ALL were written long after his death, and probably not by his disciples. There is enough contradiction between the four gospels to raise suspicions of all of them. There is certainly no historical evidence outside of the bible that Jesus (as depicted in the gospels) even existed. So how can his "words" be "true to God"?

I see flaws in every system of belief, including, and especially, Atheism.

This one drives me nuts! Atheism is NOT a system of belief. It is a LACK of belief in gods. It's that simple. A rather bad analogy (but the only one I can come up with at the moment) is that Atheism is a belief like NOT collecting stamps is a hobby. Do atheists have flaws? Of course they do! I know I do! But those flaws are NOT necessarily related to their lack of belief in supernatural beings.

[denuseri]

NONE of the Gospels are contemporary accounts of Jesus. ALL were written long after his death, and probably not by his disciples. There is enough contradiction between the four gospels to raise suspicions of all of them. There is certainly no historical evidence outside of the bible that Jesus (as depicted in the gospels) even existed. So how can his "words" be "true to God"?


This one drives me nuts! Atheism is NOT a system of belief. It is a LACK of belief in gods. It's that simple. A rather bad analogy (but the only one I can come up with at the moment) is that Atheism is a belief like NOT collecting stamps is a hobby. Do atheists have flaws? Of course they do! I know I do! But those flaws are NOT necessarily related to their lack of belief in supernatural beings.

LMAO

It's not the aethiests that are nessesarally so flawed Thorne, but the idea of aethism itself.