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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorne View Post
    There's just no evidence that the death of any individual, or group, seems to have any measurable effect on the universe as a whole.
    To take that a little further if you like, the universe is a beautiful growing [for want of a better word] item. Human life could be compared to the bacteria on an out of date boiled egg that has been exposed to the atmosphere too long. Throw the boiled egg away, and you’ll never miss the egg and you won't think of the bacteria. The bacteria will grow somewhere else but it won't be the same. Meaning we are a by-product of the expanding universe and of no importance.

    It is a very hard way of looking at life and mankind. That theory would make all that we do of no importance. The computer is an aid, it’s solid and manmade, but it is an aid for us to do what? Find the end? There has to be more to it than that, but just maybe that is what life is all about.... Believing; believing in something, believing in anything, because there is no way of knowing for certain what is ahead only death.... and we all cling on to life because of the uncertainty of what death is.

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    And all better now, whew. You know what Cinder says (she's my old puppy)? Work hard, play hard, and enjoy your tummy rubs because tomorrow we may all die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksst View Post
    And all better now, whew. You know what Cinder says (she's my old puppy)? Work hard, play hard, and enjoy your tummy rubs because tomorrow we may all die.
    Quite the doggy philosopher, your Cinder.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAN 2411 View Post
    Meaning we are a by-product of the expanding universe and of no importance.
    Meaning we have to devise our own meanings for what we do. We are important to others in our lives. I have a wife, two children, and two grandchildren. Plus a large family. Plenty of meaning for me.

    It is a very hard way of looking at life and mankind. That theory would make all that we do of no importance.
    No importance to whom? Some nebulous being in another plain? Who cares? All that we do is important to US! That should be enough.

    The computer is an aid, it’s solid and manmade, but it is an aid for us to do what? Find the end?
    Or perhaps to find the beginning. Or the middle. For whatever WE decide is important to us, in the here and now. It's all we have! Let's make sure we use it well.

    There has to be more to it than that,
    Why? Because you want it to be? Then use that computer, use that brain, and find the proof that there IS more to it than that. But don't just guess at it.

    but just maybe that is what life is all about.... Believing; believing in something, believing in anything, because there is no way of knowing for certain what is ahead only death....
    Yes, believing in something can be important. Believing in just anything sounds desperate. As for knowing what's ahead, find out. Study. Learn. Experiment. Find the truth, whatever it may be. But make sure you're prepared to learn the truth. It may not be what you expect.

    and we all cling on to life because of the uncertainty of what death is.
    I have found (and from many things I've read, I'm not alone in this) that shedding the religious claptrap that I was indoctrinated with has removed that fear, for the most part. Oh, sure, I sometimes wonder, I sometimes question, but I no longer have that fear that saying the wrong word, or doing the wrong thing is going to send me to some horrific punishment. I know nothing of an existence before my birth. I fully expect that I will know nothing of an existence after my death. I'll simply cease to exist. I still fear the process of dying, but the idea of death is no longer frightening.
    "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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