Impeachment?

[Ozme52]

well Oz at least when your wrong your consistant about it. We spent plenty on clinton's impeachment for what now with so much more on the line its time to what play nice.

Yep. That was a waste of effort too. Clinton's impeachment was totally political.

I actually thought you had a better grasp of history and responsibility.

I don't deny that what Bush and Cheney have done is reprehensible. I HATE what they've done to our international reputation. Instead of us being the guy who watches out for injustice, we're the bully. I don't like it at all.

I'm just not sure that anything they've done could be called illegal and that's the point I'm making. You don't think if they had broken the law the Democratic majority in both houses wouldn't have acted? But regardless of criminality, it still makes good press.

My main point has been that you can't talk about things like reversing the Patriot Act... it was passed by congress, not by Bush/Cheney. He didn't go to war illegally, congress voted for it. Yes, the information was in error. Can anyone prove congress was purposely misled? NO. If you could prove it congress would have impeached immediately... and at the very least, reversed the war vote. You can only "prove" that after-the-fact, it was incredibly and stupidly wrong.

No, and on the contrary, they repeatedly vote to extend and send more troops. They certainly must have information that we don't have access to that implies it was the right thing to do.

I guess I'm trying to narrowly argue the topic. The war (and a host of related activities with regard to the Patriot Act) are way too broad to handle as a single subject. I just don't think an impeachment is going to do us any good... presuming you could even find him/them guilty of anything.